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it. i think he's right. i think in fact the situation with respect to al qaeda, to say that, you know, that was a big attack we had on 9/11 but it's not likely again, i just think that's dead wrong. >> i always underestimate the way dick cheney approaches things. the reason it's unlikely is because we have been relentless, absolutely relentless in isolating al qaeda, central al qaeda, osama bin laden, al qaeda coming out of the afghan, pakistan region. >> mark preston, what brought this on? >> well, you know, clearly we have two administrations right now, don, trying to really establish themselves as the leader on this issue and many issues. certainly when it comes to terror, the issue of terror, you have president -- vice president biden out there just talking about how they've been trying to clean up this what they would call a mess that the bush administration left them. and you have dick cheney, who has been really the biggest defender of how the bush administration has dealt with the terror issue.
>> lynn, planned strategy here? >> well, actually, there was a trigger to what set off vice president cheney. there is a debate now even within the obama administration of whether or not one of the 9/11 bombers should have a trial in a federal court in new york, and it looks like the obama administration is changing its mind on that. and also whether or not this should -- you know, the suspect should be in a military trial or commission rather than a federal courtroom. so you have some issues out there that vice president cheney uses an entree point to a discussion he's had before. you know, his position has been that the obama administration isn't as serious on terrorism as the bush administration was -- >> we're going to get to that in a little bit -- >> today biden had a strong comeback. >> we're going to play that in just a little bit because i want to talk about this first before we get to that. huge differences on national security and the hajd of the christmas day terror suspect. listen to this. >> the thing i learned from
watching that process unfold, though, was that the administration really wasn't equipped to deal with the aftermath of an attempted attack against the united states in the sense that they didn't know what to do with the guy. >> i don't know what dick's been doing lately. i don't know. we did exactly what he did with the shoe bomber. richard reid. exactly what he did. we brought in the experts. i was told he said we didn't bring in the right people. the experts are the fbi interrogators. they are the best that we have. we brought them in immediately. >> so lynn, despite back and forth here, who's telling the truth? can we decipher? >> well, there's no reason not to believe that the obama administration thinks that they have gotten all they could get out of the so-called underwear, or christmas day bomber through the interrogation techniques they have. cheney has a point that he thought that he should not have been questioned under civilian
authorities, put him in a military brig and they have every option open. that is chilling to some americans who thought -- who wanted obama to proceed this way. what the obama white house is saying, though, which i guess kind of gives them the leg up is that they were able to get plenty of information from him, cooperating voluntarily even under the circumstances that they had. and you know what, i'm just not in a position to know on this one. very few people are. who's right. and these are not interrogations where you get a transcript. >> right. who's right and who's wrong. let's stick with terror here because they are also differing on treating the fight against terror as a war here. vice president joe biden had a very strong response to that, mark. listen and i want you to respond to it. >> i think we have to treat it as a war. this is a strategic threat to the united states. i think that's why we were successful for 7 1/2 years in avoiding a further major attack against the united states. and i do get very nervous and very upset when that's the dominant approach. >> i don't think the vice
president -- the former vice president, dick cheney, listens. the president of the united states said in the state of the union we're at war with al qaeda. and by the way, we're pursuing that war with a vigor like it's never been seen before. >> so listen, mark, the administration had to know that this was going to cause a bit of a ruckus, as did former vice president dick cheney. they had to know about this before they went into it. >> yeah. you know, i think certainly what we saw play out today is that the administration, you know, knew that dick cheney was going to be a guest on abc this week. so what they decided to do was try to put him out there to not only try to rebut him. right before that interview he taped one of these interviews last night, he did the second interview this morning live, don. so they tried to sandwich cheney between two hours. now, i will tell you, i think the administration is really trying to be aggressive in pushing back against dick cheney. this isn't the first time vice president cheney has been critical of the obama administration. certainly when it comes to the issue of terror. >> all right, mark and lynn, stand by because i want to bring
in our pentagon correspondent right now, chris lawrence. he joins us. you know, the new nato offensive is under way in afghanistan. it's a huge political issue as well. so chris, we report on this terrible accident earlier tonight, killing 12 civilians. what can you tell us? >> reporter: don, the marines say they were taking direct fire from the taliban so they used a highly sophisticated mobile artillery system to aim two rockets at the taliban holed up in that compound. the rockets missed. went about 300 yards off course. hit that home, killing 12 civilians. the u.s. has now apologized and suspended use of that rocket system until they figure out what went wrong. that's where we are now. this is going to give you an idea of where we're going. the areas in red are the taliban influence. and this, again, is exactly where we're talking about. marjah. that is the area where the bulk of the work is going to be done over this next week. what originally was taliban hit and run targets, now what you're going to be seeing is taliban
dug into neighborhoods, u.s. troops seeing a lot more booby traps and snipers than they originally expected. >> pentagon correspondent chris lawrence. thank you very much. let's bring mark and lynn back in. mark, you know the president has a lot really on the line here politically. obviously, he asks for updates from the field constantly, and he's getting them. >> yeah, he is getting them. you know, what's interesting, don, is when he decided to send 30,000 more u.s. troops into afghanistan, you know, about 60% of americans thought that that was a good idea. however, it's a little more than 40% of americans actually support the war. so by and large more than half of americans, 55%, don't support the afghan war by any means. but as chris is talking about right there, you know, the fact is they're going in, they're trying to do this really tactical strike into marjah. and basically, what they're going to end up trying to do and what we've been told is they're trying to get in there and trying to have the afghan government come over and really try to start ruling themselves because the american public,
don, does not want this war to go on and on and on. >> so lynn, you know, initially president bush was criticized for taking the focus off of afghanistan for iraq. paid more attention to iraq. having said that, whatever happens in afghanistan now, is it completely owned by president obama? >> well, yes, because this is the war that president obama, even then senator obama, never objected to. during the campaign it really didn't get a lot of attention because so much focus was on iraq. but don, afghanistan policy has always been between bush and obama one of focus and no one had ever said we shouldn't be there. this battle is very significant. i get a sense somehow it's overshadowed maybe by snow here or the olympics. but this is a very significant use of military force. what is interesting, as mark said, is this time the follow-up is to quickly have a civilian and afghan-run government come in and take over so we're not --
we're not rung the show there. that is a little different approach where the state department and the pentagon are working towards more civilian input faster. >> and lynn sweet with politicsdaily.com and also the "chicago sun-times" and mark preston, who's our political editor, thank you both very much. your week ahead. what you need to know, and what everyone will be talking about. also, a pileup like you won't believe. what caused this? >> it happened too fast. i mean, it was just there, and i headed for the guardrail, and it didn't move. and then i just kept getting nailed from behind. >> and later, some expert valentine's advice on how to use a dating website to the best advantage. here's a tip. don't post a profile picture of yourself drinking alcohol. we want you to weigh in as well. make sure you log on to the social networking sites. we're taking your comments. [ woman ] ♪ whoa
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about for the week ahead. first i want to check in now with cnn planning editor chris friedman. chris, there's a lot of stuff on the menu here. i see on monday there could be some trouble for john mccain. he's getting a challenger, right? >> j.d. hayworth. >> who is a former congressman. and then on tuesday down in new orleans we've been watching the feeds come in all night. there is fat tuesday for mardi gras. and then on thursday i see you have here on your calendar there's a big cpac conference. >> the heavy hitters in the conservative movement. >> for the republican party. the big grand finale the speaker we'll talk about that. >> later, yeah. >> let's walk over to katie barr. and katie, on monday we are still down in haiti and we're pursuing that story. we're getting -- talking about the decision from the judge about the ten americans as well who have been down there and been held in prison. there's some talk that they may not let them out, they're going back and forth and they're going to check on that. and tuesday a big conference i'm hearing about in iran that you're dealing with to talk about -- what is it? it's about nuclear weapons? ahmadinejad. and katie, also in new orleans
we talked about that early. not just new orleans, right? we're going to take you to rio because we have live pictures for the first time, the big carnival going on down in rio. it all starts this week. so new orleans not the only place celebrating this week. thank you very much, katie and chris. you know, to the weather now. big problems last week. so what about this upcoming week? jacqui jeras. >> here we go again, don. unfortunately, we're looking at more snow possible in parts of the mid and deep south as well as the ohio valley. we're going to watch that storm move into the mid-atlantic tomorrow and into tuesday it's going to be bringing some snow into the big cities across the northeast. this one nowhere near what we had with snowmageddon but it's already causing flights to be cancelled. we'll talk about that with your forecast coming up. >> jacqui, thank you very much. politics, foreign policy, and entertainment also on the weekly radar starting with the president. >> i'm dan lothian at the white house. this week president o'babama ha
mix of domestic and international issues. he'll meet with the dalai lama at the white house, a controversial visit china has protested. king juan carlos of spain will also come here to meet with the president. then mr. obama will visit and tour a jobs training center in the d.c. area before heading to denver, colorado and las vegas, nevada to meet with voters, business leaders, and attend political events. i'm jill doherty with what's happening at the state department this week. secretary of state hillary clinton continues on the road with her trip to qatar in saudi arabia. the highlight of that trip, sunday's speech to the u.s. islamic world forum. wednesday she comes back to washington and meets with president barack obama. then thursday sits down with the president of guatemala. friday a meeting with the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice, as the u.s. pushes forward on tougher sanctions against iran. i'm poppy harlow in new
york. here are some of the stories we'll be following this week on cnn money. the markets are closed on monday for a holiday. but after a wild week on wall street investors are bracing for what's ahead. we'll be keeping a close eye on toyota after it recalled millions of cars. and starting on tuesday we'll get a host of earnings reports from major corporations, including kraft and pharmaceutical giant merck as well as walmart and dell. and housing and jobs will remain top of mind this week. we'll get new data on home building on wednesday, and weekly jobless claims coming up on thursday. that is all ahead. i'm "showbiz tonight's" a.j. hammer. and expect big news breaking monday in hollywood. that's when the official oscar countdown begins with the annual luncheon for all of the oscar nominees. we're also expecting more big fallout this week from singer john mayer's racially charged comments in a just released interview. the big question, how badly is this going to hurt his career? and friday, one of the most anticipated movies of the year will open, "shutter island." leonardo dicaprio's latest movie with oscar-winning director martin scorsese.
>> thank you, guys. there's your week ahead. you know, it's been almost nine years since 9/11, and the u.s. justice department is still trying to figure out what to do with the accused mastermind and four co-conspirators of that attack. now the president has gotten involved. global warming or no global warming? that is the question. bill nye, the science guy, has an interesting answer for you. there's a hospital where technology has a healing touch. there's a factory giving old industries new life. and there's a train that got a whole city movinagain. somewhere in america, the toughest questions are answered every day. because somewhere in america, more than sixty thousand people spend every day answering them. siemens. answers.
the trial of accused september 11th mastermind khalid shaikh mohammed and four co-conspirators. where will it be held? it is causing consternation around the world. and tonight it is still up in the air. when u.s. attorney general eric holder announced his plan to bring the terror trial just blocks from ground zero --
>> they will be brought to new york, to new york, to answer for their alleged crimes in a -- >> reporter: he probably never anticipated the backlash. >> the obama administration's decision to prosecute the mastermind of 9/11, khalid shaikh mohammed, and four other co-conspirators in civilian court in new york city makes no sense to most americans, including me. >> reporter: senator lindsey graham's comments not only reflected republican concerns but the swelling outrage from people in manhattan. new york leaders were forced to protect their own interests and the people they represent. >> we still have been unable to rebuild that site. and having those terrorists tried so close to the attack is going to be an encumbrance on all new yorkers. >> it's going to cost a lot of money and disturb a lot of people. my hope is that the attorney general and the president decide to change their mind. >> i've encouraged the administration to find suitable
alternatives, and they appear to be doing just that. at this point it's obvious. they cannot have the trials in new york. >> reporter: and perhaps the strongest voices the administration will consider, the people who lost loved ones in the attack. even they ha even they are divided. >> by doing this you are taking his actions out of the realm of being an act of warfare and calling it a crime. this was not a crime. this is far beyond a crime. it's an act of warfare. >> i trust my justice system, the constitution, which has been enforced in the last 230 years, and i want them tried here. my son was murdered here. and i want to see them go to trial here. >> reporter: now the president, no closer to a solution. terror suspects held in a prison he promised to close with no place to try them. >> we bring in noah feldman now. he's a harvard law professor and the author of "the fall and rise of the islamic state." so my question to you is can you explain the difference to our
viewers beyond the politics, how khalid shaikh mohammed being treated differently in new york city, how woe be treated in a trial versus guantanamo bay a trial or military trial? >> the core difference between a military tribunal and a civilian trial is who are the judges. in a military trial the judges will be military officers, often of pretty high rank. there's a great likelihood of conviction as a result. on top of that the rules of procedure would not be the same rules that would apply in a civilian trial. so sometimes secret evidence could be introduced and sometimes other evidence that might have been acquired by means that wouldn't be allowed in a civilian trial might make it in. and that really matters in the case of khalid shaikh mohammed because of the widespread allegations, widely accepted as true, that he was subjected to a great deal of waterboarding, perhaps more than 100 times. >> so dig down on that a little more, why it really matters. you say he was subjected to waterboarding. but keep going. what do you mean? >> so as a result in a civilian trial any evidence that's in any way, shape, or form connected to that acquired through the waterboarding is going to be
inadmissible because those procedures obviously are radically outside of the bounds of what our ordinary civilian interrogation would allow or permit. and some people believe they even violated our laws against torture. so nothing that came from that sort of evidence, either from mohammed himself or from others, would be admitted -- >> and how might that affect the trial? >> well, it would mean, first of all, that proof of guilt would have to come from other sources. it probably couldn't come from any kind of a confession that mohammed himself made, even if he made it prior to the waterboarding. it might well be considered as tainted. or if he made it afterwards. it would mean that evidence would have to come from independent sources. and that might be very difficult to do. it also means his lawyers-f they so chose and if they were clever, might spend a lot of time at the trial trying to introduce the fact of the waterboarding to muddy the waters and make it hard to believe other evidence against him and -- >> so this evidence at a military tribunal -- in a military tribunal this would be allowed into evidence but also the record would be private? am i correct? but in a civilian court is the
record, would it be open to the public? >> well, first of all, military tribunal doesn't have to be open to the public and there's no guarantee that it would be wholly open to the public. with respect to the evidence, if it were actually acquired through direct coercion, then under the present rules it probably would not be admitted at trial. but it's not obvious that every element would be excluded, and the rules of exclusion would be pretty different. one of the things bay military tribunal is that the government essentially gets to set the rules and it can set the rules in such a way as to make it easier to get evidence in and certainly make it much harder for the government to be embarrassed by evidence introduced by the defendant's lawyers. >> and for more of my conversation with noah feldman go to my blog, cnn.com/don. he's accused of robbing haiti of hundreds of millions of dollars. >> it's like the president going to the federal reserve and upon instruction of the president please give $100,000. >> just writing himself checks. >> absolutely. and that was happening almost every day. >> cnn on a quest to find baby
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want to check some of your top stories right now. police say three hooded men walked inside a san francisco bay area church today and opened fire during the service. about 100 people were worshiping at the church when the gunfire erupted. the gunmen shot a 14-year-old boy and a 19-year-old man. investigators aren't sure if they were the intended targets. both are expected to be okay. the shooters have not been caught. two adults and a child were killed today when a helicopter crashed near phoenix, arizona. faa officials say the chopper burst into flames after it went down. eurocopter ec-35 crashed in the tonighto national forest. in vancouver two members of the u.s. olympics delegation were hurt today while traveling in vice president joe biden's
motorcade. former gold medalist peggy fleming and vonetta flowers suffered minor sxijz were taken to the hospital just as a precaution, though. a spokesman says the van in which they were riding was involved in a minor accident. neither biden nor anyone else in the motor cade was involved in that accident. jacqui jeras, snow and ice creating big messes across the country this weekend and another system coming through. >> yeah, absolutely. we want to show you the most extreme weather that we've been experiencing this weekend, don. incredible pictures out of pittsburgh, pennsylvania. we'll start you there, where last week's snowfall just became too much for the roof of an ice skating rink. it collapsed. people were actually inside at the time. thankfully, they heard a cracking sound and were able to get out in time. nobody was hurt. there you can see emergency crews in the area. so some tense moments there after last week's storm. let's go now to kansas city, just outside the city. three interstates shut down from three separate accidents.
this one in wyandotte county along i-70. about 30 cars or more, they're estimating, crashed here. there were some injuries. still searching to see how severe they were. and last, we'll take you to california now, where two huge rogue waves along with high tide inundated the beach during a surf contest. and there you can see several people washed up under the beaches there. there were a few injuries. a couple of people with broken bones. so some scary moments on the west coast. those high surf advisories still in effect there at half moon bay until tomorrow. >> all right, jacqui jeras. we'll check back to see how the morning commute's going to be a little later on. you know, jobs may be getting easier to find. fast food is not recessionproof. and people are still finding love in the workplace. here's stephanie elam with this week's "getting down to business." nearly 15 million americans are out of work, but finding a job might be a little bit
easier. according to a government report released last week, there are now just under six job seekers for every opening. that's the best ratio since last june. but when the recession began in late 2007, only two people vied for each job. watch for the latest unemployment numbers on thursday. the economy may be showing signs of improvement, but it turns out americans are spending less on big macs and six-packs. last week mcdonald's, coca-cola, and molson coors reported that sales were down in the u.s. find out more about the cost of what we spend our money on when inflation rates are released on friday. and finally, on this valentine's day, the state of the economy hasn't stopped people from finding love in the workplace. according to a careerbuilder survey, nearly 40% of workers admit to having an office romance sometime during their career. and a third of those people went on to marry the person they dated at work. that's this week's "getting down to business." stephanie elam, cnn, new york. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 (announcer) we believe in giving every investor
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two big snowstorms in the nation's capital, and political tongues are wagging. conservatives have been bashing former vice president al gore and other climate change advocates, and they're having a lot of fun doing it. they say the colder than normal winter and snowier than normal winter proof positive that global warming is a bunch of hooey. but is their criticism fair? so let's get the answers now from the science guy, mr. bill nye. it's always good to see you. so you know -- >> good to see you, don. >> you know everything about climate change, right? so republicans, you know, they have been really bashing the former vice president. so i want to show you senator jim demint whaerks posted on his twitter page. he said it's going to keep snowing in d.c. until al gore cries uncle. and then -- that is a sweet right there. representative jim inhofe posted photos on his facebook page. he said, "al gore's new home: a
six-foot igloo. the family built it on capitol hill right there." so what do you think of this? does this disprove global warming, or is this over the top? what do you think? >> well, i'd start with what do you think? absolutely not, it doesn't disprove climate change. now, the word "global warming," let me back up, is sort of the first term that was coined 15 years ago, let's say, or 1988, when it was first testified. jim hansen testified in front of congress, let's say. but since then people have used the expression "climate change" because warming is in a global sense certainly happening but it's the changes that happen locally on account -- like for example, this year the winds -- the jet stream is much farther south than you might expect. and so it's snowing in atlanta, right? but that absolutely does not disprove climate change. people are making these claims
is really remarkable. none of this stuff has exactly anything to do with the blizzard this year, and none of it has anything to do exactly with the world getting warmer. and -- >> okay. >> -- the world's climate changing -- >> mr. science guy, hang on a little bit. i'm not going to stop you here. i just want to bring in our jacqui jeras, who's our meteorologist here. and we talked about this a little bit when we were discussing, should we get bill nye on? what should we do? so jacqui's going to join us. finish your thought and then we'll let jacqui ask you a question or -- >> well, it's just you can't look at two weeks of weather and then declare that all the research that's been done and all the climate models are not valid. it's -- that's just not how you would draw conclusions. you see an occasional somebody will spin a roulette wheel and get a double 0, but that happens very, very seldom. so i mention it as an analogy. two weeks of weather is not enough.
>> jacqui? >> i absolutely agree with bill. regardless of what you think about climate change, you have to look at the word climate, right? and that's the long-term weather of what you would expect over a place. and so you can't say one storm or two storms even means that global warming isn't happening. on top of that, you know, we had incredible snowfall totals with these storms. you know, five different major metropolitan areas had more snow than they've ever seen in one season. now, when air is warmer, you tend to hold more moisture in it. so you get a blizzard and it's 30 degrees, you're going to get a whole lot more snow in a blizzard than where you had the temperature down to, say, 18 degrees because it's dryer air. so in a way we could almost disprove that. but it does seem -- i get asked all the time, oh, it's cold out there, does that mean global warming isn't happening? i do think people kind of say that tongue in cheek. >> i've got to tell you, our viewers are weighing in here, bill and jacqui. here's what one person says. she says, "climate change and weather are not the same thing. besides, it's called climate change, idiots."
and an exclamation point. i'll give you the last word, bill. >> well, i have a question for jacqui. has it really been colder or has it just been cold enough to have snow instead of rain? >> quick answer, jacqui. >> i did a little bit of research. many of those big cities have had colder than normal temperatures for the last two weeks. but almost every single of those same cities have had above-average temperatures in january. >> thank you. >> warmest january on record. thank you all very much. keep up the good work and try to get everybody to understand this issue. >> thanks, bill. >> thank you, bill. it's good to see you -- all right. that was a little bit earlier here on cnn. he is sorry. the president of toyota makes a very public apology for one of the largest aug aught motive re ever. and our jacqui jeras is here as well. >> hey, don, we've got more snow on the way across parts of the south where you wouldn't expect it yet again. where is the storm headed? yeah, the mid-atlantic and northeast is going to get it too but not as bad as last time around. rint.
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the top stories right now on cnn, you're about to get a rare glimpse at a japanese ceo accepting responsibility for his company in a very personal way. toyota president bows and apologizes to a prius customer. he did it yesterday. it was at a dealership in japan. the prius is one of four toyota vehicles that have been recalled in recent weeks. secretary of state hillary clinton calling on iran to rethink its nuclear policies or risk sanctions. she made the comments today at the world economic forum in qatar. she also updated delegates on the condition of her husband, recovering from surgery to clear
a blocked artery in his heart. >> he is in great shape. all is well. or i would not be here this evening. >> well, the secretary also said she's forging a peace deal between the palestinians and israelis and that it is a priority. southwest airlines has a message for filmmaker kevin smith. they're saying sorry, dude. the "l.a. times" is reporting that smith went into a twitter tirade after southwest kicked him off a plane for being too fat. now, smith acknowledges he is large but not so big that he can't fly. all the same, southwest issued a statement saying it regrets how smith was treated. the airline gave him a $100 voucher for his inconvenience. weigh in on twitter on that one, and we'll play some of your responses on the air. let's check in now with our jacqui jeras. jacqui, how's the week ahead looking? >> not looking like a great start, unfortunately, don. we're coming out of the gate with flights being cancelled and a winter storm which developed in the nation's mid-section today, and it's been intensifying, bringing in some heavy snow across southern
illinois into western kentucky at this hour. and there you can see a thinner line stretching down toward memphis and into northern mississippi. yeah, i said mississippi once again. here we go with the southern storm. the snowfall totals this time around are going to be lesser. a, because it's a more northerly tracking system, and this is a clipper. it's an alberta clipper. it means it moves really fast and is moving along. we've got winter weather advisories which have been issued as well as a couple of winter storm warnings. and we think some of the heaviest accumulations are going to stap here toward the ohio river valley, south of indianapolis, over toward louisville, cincinnati, up towards columbus. and we're expecting four to eight inches there. we could see a slightly heavier swath with elevation down here. and atlanta maybe around an inchish. it's a real tricky forecast as well because that rain-snow line, and we're going to see a little bit of mixing in that transformation. so that can make numbers a little difficult. but they've cancelled 400 flights out of atlanta, hartsfield-jackson international airport. due to delta. and airtran cancelling a few as
well. we're expecting delays there. as well as charlotte, d.c., chicago, cincinnati, pittsburgh, minneapolis, st. louis, and san francisco. got through them all. there's the big picture for tomorrow, don. we'll be achg the southeast up to the mid-atlantic and ohio valley for the worst of the weather across the nation. >> all right, jacqui. thank you. who would steal millions from the haiti people? one man is accused of doing it. >> it's like the president going to the federal reserve and upon instruction of the president please give $100,000. >> just writing himself checks. >> absolutely. and that was happening almost every day. >> a cnn special investigation tonight. we'll tell you what happened to some of that money.
tonight, a cnn special investigation. abbi boudreau of our "special investigations unit" is on the hunt for baby doc duvalier. his family is accused of stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from the people of haiti, money that could be used to rebuild the island nation after the devastating earthquake. >> reporter: we've come to paris
in search of the man who wrecked haiti, the man whose xleem stole as much as a billion dollars from one of the neediest countries in the world. >> from the $500 million we documented, which are probably half of the money which has been embezzled by mr. duvalier and his wife and their accomplices, we have evidence that they transferred abroad $120 million. >> reporter: gilles august is the attorney who was hired to get the money back. and he's talking about this man, jean claude duvalier, known as baby doc. but it was really a father and son act. baby doc's father was a brutal dictator known as papa doc duvalier. he began their nearly 30-year crime spree in the 1950s. they had a vicious secret militia, the tonton makout. roughly translated, it means the
bogey men. under their reign of terror, as many as 60,000 haitians were killed. after his father died, baby doc took larceny to a new level, especially after he married his glamorous wife, michele. together they used their country like a personal piggy bank. >> it's like the president going to the federal reserve and upon instruction of the president please give $100,000. >> just writing himself checks. >> absolutely. and that was happening almost every day. cash. cash. cash. cash. cash. and this is the bank of the republic. >> oh, my goodness. >> you see? >> he was just using this as his personal bank account. >> absolutely. here they are debiting something like $400,000. and these $400,000 are debited from the national defense to new york care of springer and firmen
which is a nice jewelry shop in new york. >> jacques sales also worked on the case. >> another example. following instruction by his excellency, the president for life, please transfer $100,000 to the ferrari automotive company in italy. >> so he was buying himself cars. >> yes. >> and what other things was he buying himself? >> roughly $20 million to buy i would say stuff. jewelry, mink coats, a yacht -- >> cars. >> cars. et cetera. and then $100 million in cash or in real estate. that's why we believe that they had about $100 million when they went away. >> reporter: a popular uprising forced the duvaliers to run away to france in 1986. but many of those who conspired and enriched themselves with the dictator remained in power, allowing baby doc to escape free
and clear. at first the ex-dictator and his wife lived like royalty on the french riviera. but the duvaliers' riches and romance came to an end. their divorce was messy. michele reportedly ended up with most of the loot. according to british journalist peter allen, who showed us her ritzy parisian penthouse. >> she's on the top floor? >> she's on the top floor. she has an impressive apartment up there, which suggests she's retained quite a bit of the money that they managed to bring out of their homeland. >> reporter: baby doc fell on harder times, and he's kept a very low profile. despite his once vast wealth, critics say he's now hiding from bill collectors. >> whereas his wife is now living in a penthouse, he is likely to be living in a small -- what they are, they're the kind of little flats which were originally used for servants in the building. >> reporter: we heard baby doc was in this lower-rent parisian neighborhood.
so we showed a local store owner his picture. >> un photo? you've seen him? >> oh, yes. >> okay. >> reporter: he said he was once a regular customer. but the trail was now cold. >> monsieur duvalier? >> monsieur duvalier? no? >> this is all part of the mystery. and it's a mystery that needs to be solved if we are to put the questions to him that deserve to be put to him. >> reporter: duvalier had disappeared. like most of his money. but we did find what little was left. it's held in a ubs account in geneva, switzerland. >> out of the whole fortune of the duvaliers we managed to find only 5 to 7 million dollars at ubs anywhere geneva. for the rest it's probably in the hands of lawyers, real estate agents. we don't know. probably even the duvaliers don't know. but in any case, the money will
not go back to the duvaliers. don't worry about that. >> that's because attorney mark henzelin blocked those funds on behalf of two men, victims who were tried during duvalier's reign. >> my family was telling me it's time now to leave the country because if you don't leave they will kill you. >> reporter: etzer lalanes won his case against duvalier, but he hasn't seen a dime. he says he's not fighting this battle for personal gain. >> i will fight till i get the right because i don't want duvalier to get a dime in this money. this money is for the people of haiti, the people of haiti will use this money. >> reporter: people who desperately need it now more than ever. that's why jacques sales is so sorry baby doc has never been held accountable. >> how responsible is he for the people of haiti in the aftermath of the earthquake given the fact
that he had stolen so much money from them? >> they destroyed the country completely. the army, the church. the university. everything was destroyed. everything. so they are naturally responsible for the state of the country today. >> reporter: just one day before the earthquake switzerland's supreme court ruled it could no longer block duvalier's funds. but the swiss federal government then quickly stepped in and promised to create a new law that would prevent duvalier from ever getting that money. abbi boudreau, cnn, london. >> all right, abbi. a new sketch of the arsonist behind those texas church fires. you're not going to believe what he used to start the blazes. i have a good idea. i do, too. mine's about schools. wind power. girl power. the healing power of music concerts in the park that sounds good. i have an idea. i don't have funding. yet.
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you know what, tax season right here now, and the deadline quickly approaching. a lot of changes this tax season, including a huge incentive for new home buyers. so pay attention. our personal finance editor gerri willis has details for you. ? there >> there is a home buyer tax credit and it was increased last year to 10% of the cost of a new house and up to $8,000. and that is larger than the original tax credit. plus it's refundable. meaning you get the money even if you don't owe taxes. now, you need to know about the deadlines. an eligible taxpayer must buy or entoer into a binding contract to buy a principal residence on or before april 30th of there year and then close by june. now, you should know this isn't just for new home buyers. long-term home buyers buying a principal new residence can also use this credit. there are lots of details. you need to look those up.
the new law requires stricter proof of purchase. this is a safeguard against fraud. and it requires you to send in a copy of the settlement sheet. sow won't be able to file your 2009 return electronically. and that of course is going to slow down your refund but $89,000 is wor8 $8,000 is worth it. >> it certainly is. we know you're watching our show tonight. but guess who else is. >> oh, my god, quick, turn on cnn. >> this is don lemon, a giant turtle is attacking the universe. run for your lives, everybody. >> looks like all of our hard work is paying off for some good material on comedy central. jon stewart, "the daily show." we like a good laugh, even at our expense. [ sponge ] and now a check on the weather.
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so every weekend we try to get you caught up on interesting stories that you may have missed throughout the week. so let's start this with a new sketch of a suspected church arsonist in east texas. the latest two fires were monday in tyler, about three miles apart. now, this detail that you're going to hear is terrible. bibles apparently were used to start the blaze at one church. church members were outraged. they call it sacrilege. >> why? this is the lord's house. and it's such a shame that somebody can be such an unbeliever. >> we have been real happy here,
my wife and i, and we're just shocked. about this. you know, just can't believe it. the person that did it, i hope they got enjoyment out of it because they're going to pay for it somewhere down the line. god's not going to let them get away with this. i'm sorry. i'm feeling a little emotional. >> federal agents have confirmed ten cases of church arson this year in texas. all of them in small towns. israeli authorities say this man is a cult leader who kept nearly two dozen women as sex slaves in a tel aviv compound. joel ratzen was charged with sex al salt, rape, sodomy, and enslavement. the 23 women were said to have tattoos of his name and picture. according to israeli authorities, he fathered up to 59 children. he denied he was a culture leader. he said the women consented to live with him and they could have left if they wanted. you know, i'm